Bob shares about how he encountered Jesus, Fr. Dave talks about how St. Francis encountered Jesus in a leper, and they both talk about how to encounter Jesus in others (even in those we don’t agree with). Listen until the end to hear a beautiful song by John Paul Von Arx, “He’s Different,” written about his brother with Down Syndrome.


About “They That Hope”

Fr. Dave Pivonka, TOR, and Dr. Bob Rice are friends who see humor and hope in a crazy world. Whether they are talking about sports, movies, politics, the Catholic Church, or their own lives, Fr. Dave and Bob try to find Christ in all things, even in the messiness of today’s culture. “They that hope in the Lord will renew their strength” (Isaiah 40:31). Come be refreshed and renewed! Brought to you by Franciscan University of Steubenville.